Wet bottom: a haulout story

boats anchored at Isla Danzante Baja

Totem cruises the Sea of Cortez;  in about three weeks, we haul at the Cabrales shipyard in Puerto Peñasco, a small harbor surrounded by the Sonora desert. Typically, boats can go a few years between haulouts. So why now – didn’t we just do this in Grenada, six or seven months ago? Yes, we did, and had an unpleasant surprise. This is the backstory, and what we’ll do about it in Peñasco.

At the time we hauled out in Grenada Totem had gotten nearly three years out of the bottom paint applied in Thailand. That’s a good lifespan for ablative! We chose Grenada to repaint (a relatively safe hurricane season location, affordable rates, cruiser-friendly boatyards). Not only that, but in Grenada we had an opportunity to do a “proper” bottom job on Totem.

Prior to hauling in Grenada, we put on three bottoms on Totem in ten years, representing at least 11 coats of paints and primers and barrier coast. That’s on top of who knows how many layers we bought the Stevens 47 then called “Don’t Look Back.” Even then the hull wasn’t very smooth; over the years, accumulation of bottom paint became progressively uneven. By sand blasting the bottom back to the original barrier coat over Totem’s gelcoat bottom, we’d be able to start fresh. The crew at Grenada Marine would help us get it done right!

sailboat in travel lift slings

Totem gets hauled at Grenada Marine

Blasted surprise

To take down the old paint, a specific grade of sand is used; it’s mixed with water into a slurry that’s blasted at the bottom. This removes paint without damaging gelcoat or epoxy barrier underneath. Except what we found underneath the paint was a big surprise: there was no barrier coat. There was not even gel coat. Just bare fiberglass hull.

fiberglass sailboat hull

Bare fiberglass: not what we expected under the paint

The crew sandblasting stopped work to inform Jamie. I’d like to say it was to inform me, too, but I was happily internet-ing away with wifi in Grenada Marine’s lovely open-air waterfront restaurant. But this discovery… it wasn’t really good news. It wasn’t what anyone expected. The only thing to do was remove the rest of the paint, evaluate the bottom, and then decide on the next steps.

Why bare fiberglass?

We suspect Totem had a big problem with osmotic blisters somewhere in her history. Os-whaaa? Osmotic blisters are bubbles on the hull caused by a reaction between salts (from absorbed seawater) and styrene (a chemical in the fiberglass resin). This reaction causes pressure which can be great enough to push outwards between the fiberglass hull and gelcoat outer skin, creating a bubble (or, blister).

It can also happen pretty easily deeper than the surface: when fiberglass boats are made, they’re mainly constructed from heavy-duty fiberglass roving. But the outermost layer is usually thinner/lighter, to provide a smoother surface so that the last layer before gelcoat is a gentler transition to a smooth outer hull. Because that’s a thin layer of fiberglass, in bad cases of blistering this layer can be affected too: it can create voids by pushing out in that last, lightweight layer of fiberglass. (Side note: we’re not chemical / material engineers; this is just our understanding!)

sailboat without bottom paint

Naked hull

We suspect Totem’s problem had sufficiently bad blistering that a prior owner did what’s called a full peel. That’s when all the gelcoat is removed (peeled), and the hull is allowed to dry (hopefully) to resolve a blister problem. The bottom is then rebuilt by adding a new, thin outer layer of fiberglass and a two-part epoxy resin barrier coat over the top of that.

The crew working with us at Grenada Marine murmured approval at the fiberglass hull. Whoever did it had done a nice job, and they appreciated a good layup. The question was: would the fiberglass be wet? Or dry?

It’s a bigger problem

When blasting was finished and we were waiting for Totem to dry from the wet slurry, Jamie was cautiously optimistic that the bottom wasn’t wet. We really hoped it wasn’t, as this signaled the need for more work and more expense. But the crew supporting us, who we had come to trust for knowledge and judgement, looked at Jamie and said – “I know it’s wet.” How? In even that brief waiting period, he pointed out a sheen on the hull’s surface. This was a sticky, shiny film that is a result of the reaction between the salt and styrene. That only happens if there’s moisture in the hull. Subsequent readings on a moisture meter over a period of days confirmed his observation.

Why did it happen?

The crew may have appreciated that fine layup, but we still had a problem. Well-done fiberglass work aside, there were two unknowns in that job which lead to the moisture problem we faced.

First, we don’t know what kind of barrier coat as applied. We can tell it wasn’t a two-part epoxy resin; we’d have seen that layer that when sandblasting. We could hope that that outer layer of glass was correctly done, but we don’t know.

Second, we don’t know if moisture in the hull which caused the blisters had been dried out before the repair was made, or if there was still moisture absorbed in the hull that got covered over. What we had left is a fiberglass bottom without a gelcoat that would shown blistering from remaining moisture, so we can only speculate.

jackstands supporting fiberglass sailboat

Excavating Totem’s bottom

Somewhere between these missing links of information, Totem’s bottom became a wet hull. Jamie suspects the hull wasn’t wet initially, but has happened over time under our ownership due to the problems with the earlier repairs. Why? Because for our first years of ownership we always floated high on our waterline, and in recent years, Totem has sat relatively low on her lines. OK, OK, we have accumulated trinkets on board and the kids have gotten bigger and there are probably a few more items in lockers than when we moved aboard in May 2018! But these would not add up to the mass required to sink Totem to the point where our stern end has settled down to (and even slightly below) the waterline. Most likely this water weight has slowly accumulated over time.

Now what?

We were reluctant to bury the wet hull under more paint, but had few options. The hull needs time to dry out, Grenada’s humidity and rain makes it a poor choice of location. On the other hand, we had plans to sail for the Pacific coast of Mexico. Where better than the dry desert of Baja, already our anticipated destination for hurricane season? So thin barrier coat and two thin coats of ablative bottom paint were applied: enough to get us to an ideal place for drying out a boat, the low humidity of the Sonora desert. These thin layers are already thinning, which we hope makes the job of going back to bare fiberglass for a proper dry-out an easy one.

Totem will sit on the hardstand in the desert while her crew spends a summer back in the Pacific Northwest. A periodic rinse is good and the rain there is measured in millimeters, so a periodic hose-down to help pull out impurities and styrene will be hired out in our absence. We’ll be back in the back half of October after the Annapolis Boat Show. HOPEFULLY, at that point, the hull will measure dry; then the work to put it back begins. Fairing the hull. Adding multiple coats of two-part epoxy barrier to keep water out. Starting fresh, with new bottom paint.

Grenada Marine

We may have had disappointing news during our haulout at Grenada Marine, but the crew we worked with gets high marks. Part of our decision to haul there was the full-service staff. At other boatyards, you hire in contractors associated with the yard. On one hand, that puts the choice of workers solidly in your hands. On the other, being your own project manager adds risk and time (I’d prefer deal with one point of contact the yard if there are problems, rather than a handful of different contractors). We were allowed to mix DIY work in, which helped us save money on jobs we could do, and everyone who worked on Totem impressed us.

Grenada Marine team

Very happy with the team at Grenada Marine! Just before splashing with a shiny bottom

More on blistering

That’s the story of why we’re hauling out again so soon. Here are a few FAQs about osmotic blistering (and water ingress).

What does it look like?

Osmotic blisters can be the size of a coin, or much bigger – especially if the thinner fiberglass layer is what’s being lifted instead of a bubble of gelcoat.

What do you do if you have blisters?

It’s a question of magnitude: the size, quantity, and depth of blisters as well as the type of hull (cored or solid). Depending on the scope of the problem, they can be dug out – dried – filled, then repainted; if there’s time you can dry the bottom further, and re-barrier coat it.

When blistering is really bad, if you can afford it: peel the (permeable) gel coat, dry out the hull, and start fresh with a new barrier coat. Just, a more effective barrier than was apparently applied to Totem!

How do you dry out?

It’s pretty convenient that we have a low-humidity desert stop ahead. Grenada would have required intervention beyond sitting on the hard to sufficiently dry out. Heat lamps, heat pads, infrared lamps, and other options are available. Glad we can just park in the desert!

How bad can it be?

Osmotic blistering is partly a cosmetic problem of unsightly pox. Mostly, it makes a boat heavier. My dear friend Pam Wall lost 1,500 pounds of water weight absorbed in the hull of her beloved Kandarik, when hauled in Portugual for the better part of a year! This is mainly a practical problem for a boat that now sits lower in the water and may be slower. It can be behind some peskier problems than just making the boat weigh more, too We’ve also heard of dampness being felt on the interior, and potentially causing problems with mold/mildew.

Can the hull integrity be compromised?

Hull thickness, and strength of the layup in the materials, make it less likely. In a cored hull, water ingress can cause more significant problems. If the outer skin is thin, the blister and moisture in it can reach core material. Presumably that’s closed cell, but can still leech and lead to larger areas of delamination. Fortunately this is pretty unusual! Bottom line: it won’t sink your boat.

Further reading

An excellent guide to boat care with good information on the why and how of osmotic blisters, and deep details for DIY fixing (because wow, can this get costly) is Don Casey’s This Old Boat.

Totem and crew are enjoying stops along the inside of Baja on the way north to Puerto Peñasco.

Relaxing view from Grenada Marine's restaurant

Relaxing at Grenada Marine’s restaurant at the end of the day

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24 Responses to Wet bottom: a haulout story

  1. John Daubeny May 31, 2018 at 12:42 pm #

    Sorry to hear that news, but its so so common. After 4 years in the tropics my first yacht had Osmosis when I got back to the UK. Caused a bit of fun and games at Sale time, but I got through it. ATEA is steel, so we don’t get Osmosis – just lots and lots of rust!

    An extended stay in the desert sounds like the perfect rest for TOTEM – she deserves it. All love , John

    • Behan May 31, 2018 at 7:24 pm #

      Hmm… osmosis or rust, not sure which poison to pick! 😀 Hope all’s well with clan Atea.

  2. Laurence Phillips May 31, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

    HaHa, I wondered what all the trade-offs were to park in that oven of a spot. Turns out it’s perfect, especially all summer long. it would be hard to match anywhere else in the world. You’ll have to do an intense search for any amphibian or reptile stowaways before you drive off into the sunset.

    • Behan May 31, 2018 at 7:24 pm #

      LOL! It is an excellent tradeoff. Especially because we won’t stay there and cook! Back to Puget Sound for a few months. And yes, intense search expected in October

  3. Jim (in Essex) May 31, 2018 at 1:21 pm #

    Big surprise indeed. Summertime Mexican desert should dry her out reasonably quickly. With the 10+ years this condition has existed hopefully the styrene has mostly leeched out. The adventure never ends. Cheers!

    • Behan May 31, 2018 at 7:25 pm #

      Here’s hoping!

  4. Neely Whites May 31, 2018 at 1:44 pm #

    How much will this all cost by the time all is said and done and re-splashed? Relative to the bottom job you expected?

    • Behan May 31, 2018 at 7:25 pm #

      Good question, ask me in November!

  5. Kevin May 31, 2018 at 5:41 pm #

    Hi Totem Crew, my wife and I are long time followers of your amazing adventure. We are refitting an older boat and have found similar issues. Take the moisture meter readings with a pinch of salt and read this article http://www.yachtsurvey.com/moisture_meters.htm , very informative. You may find Totem is not as wet as you think. The web site has a lot of good info.

    • Behan May 31, 2018 at 7:26 pm #

      Hey Kevin, no question that moisture meters are… problematic. But given readings over time, and given the crew’s observations of the stryrene leeching, and given our own observations on Totem’s weight… we are pretty confident that she’s wet. Not sure how much but even a little means this is necessary! Thanks for the link, great stuff!

  6. Kia Gardner June 1, 2018 at 4:50 am #

    Behan, you are so very helpful, I can’t even tell you. Your blog is a God-send, thank you. Can you email me details on your coaching services please? I am planning to set off in five years and will, hopefully, have my boat by this time next year to begin boat prep. Since I am heading off alone, I think you & Jamie are great resources for that preparation. Peace & fair winds

  7. David Smith June 1, 2018 at 5:06 am #

    Rocky Point haulout, interesting I wasn’t aware they had this capability there. Spent a lot of time there camping on the beach and hitting the night life (JJS Cantina, The Reef & Mannys) in my younger years. Enjoy your summer in the PNW as the Sonora Desert is unbearable heat in the summer.

  8. Ron de Ru June 2, 2018 at 12:24 pm #

    Hi Behan,
    First time writer. I follow you as much as possible. I live in the PNW. Is there any chance you will be doing any talks or boat shows while you’re here? I would love to meet you guys in person.

  9. Richard Elder June 3, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

    Hi Behan,
    Bummer! The previous owner who had the boat peeled and then just slapped on some bottom paint to get it sold should be sentenced to a year of hard labor and re-education in a gulag somewhere in the middle of the Everglades!

    Looks like you are in the best possible place to let her dry out. I’d be a bit nervous as to whether there is enough time between now and November to get her fully dried out, as I’m sure you are. And I’d also monitor the topsides area 1′ above waterline as moisture may have wicked upward over the years even though it is covered with gel coat.

    This link is to an article in Professional Boatbuilder that describes more accurate technologies than the common hand held moisture meter. As an aside the author and I butted heads in a legal battle years ago, and I wouldn’t exactly call him a friend. Credit where due—- he has put together an excellent article that provides added insight into the blister dilemma.

    http://www.boatman.com/forms/BoatBuilding_Infrared.pdf

    Richard

    ps: Steel rusts, Polyester resin wants to return to the sea, and aluminum hates paint. At least in my experience the only boat that I know of that shows no sign of yielding to the elements is a 47′ wood boat that I built 44 years ago. Of course every square inch of wood inside and out was coated with multiple layers of WEST epoxy so it isn’t really a wood boat.

    • Behan June 4, 2018 at 12:27 pm #

      Thanks Richard. the common moisture meter is suspect, so alternatives are good. look forward to checking out the article!

  10. Colm McLaughlin June 4, 2018 at 9:19 am #

    Hello,
    Not sure if you guys know already but most back issues of professional boatbuilder have been made freely available on their website: –
    http://backissues.proboat.com/

    They have plenty of in-depth articles going back to 1989 about dealing with these issues.

    Hope this helps!
    Colm

    • Behan June 4, 2018 at 12:25 pm #

      Great resource, thank you Colm!

  11. Bert Willett June 4, 2018 at 9:28 am #

    I’m amazed. If I read this blog right you have had your boat in the water for over ten years with no gel coat or barrier coat. I think it has held up well.
    Bert Willett

    • Behan June 4, 2018 at 12:26 pm #

      It’s more than 11 years since we bought Totem, and who knows how far back it goes?

  12. Josh June 5, 2018 at 10:35 pm #

    Awww… such a bummer, but sounds like you have things well in hand. I too did not know that there were such services available in Rocky Point… I’ve only sampled the drinking, food, and sunburns (grew up in Arizona). As a matter of fact, Rocky Point is where I met my lovely wife, Candace… go figure.

    Hope all goes well, and we’re really looking forward to hopefully meeting up with you all on your trip to the PNW. I’ll actually be in AZ (Sedona, for a high school reunion) this weekend, but then are planning to attend an “Open Boat” with for Ubi the following weekend.

    Best Wishes to Totem and Crew!
    The Crawford Crew

    • Behan June 9, 2018 at 12:21 pm #

      You guys met in Rocky Point, no kidding?!?! We’re also looking forward to seeing you in the PNW! Wish we could make the Ubi open boat too, it was great to get on board and meet Nathalie in Martinique when she and her dad were getting the boat ready to go.

  13. Brett June 7, 2018 at 3:54 pm #

    It’s been a super long while since I last checked your awesome blog!! WOW!! You guys are awesome & a real inspiration. I’m sure you guys realize that you have fueled many dreams & actions to live life, & have been great role models for doing good.

    On another note, I thought I would pass a few thoughts (hopefully useful) along that I have about your “hull-nun-drum”.
    I previously worked with fiberglass, and watched my dad repair his 60′ Hatteras,where I saw him dry blast the blisters off. One problem with dry blasting is controlling the toxic materials that are released from the barrier coat, so a slurry works great for that, and sure helps with the safety of the workers and their families. On another note, knowing that a water slurry was used, water would be blasted at a high psi, and would be injected into the hull, adding to the overall moisture.

    One thing that fiberglass resin doesn’t mix well with is water. It will not cure, so you definitely need a dry hull anywhere more layup will need to be addressed.

    Looking at some of the pictures, Im wondering if the sand blast slurry pressure was too high, removing the thin gel coat from the bottom? (know its too late now unfortunately)
    Best wishes you guys get back on the water soon, we all love following you!
    Kindest regards
    ~Brett

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